It’s 25 minutes into this interview on the Victoria Derbyshire show.
The diatribe from the TUC lady (about 29 minutes in) becomes unbelievable, aiming at all sorts of straw men like whether the paper is a call for locally-based minimum wages (it is not). The TUC’s defensiveness on this is really telling. They don’t want people paid a different amount in, say, Harrogate than in Surrey, because decentralised wage bargaining damages their position, whether or not it is good for the country, and public services.
At 31 minutes she starts becoming particularly abusive and ad hominem. Alison – one of the nicest and most fair minded (and far from right wing) people I know – manages to keep her temper while TUC Sarah Veale really loses it. If this represents the TUC’s best argument, they too are losing it, badly.
Sarah Veale has been at the TUC since 1985. The passion you can hear in her voice is her defending the institutional status quo for the TUC – not a passionate or thought-out argument for what will do best for workers. Deeply, deeply unimpressed.
As Alison says, read the report to reach your own conclusions.